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Mike's Atmos Clock Clinic's LeCoultre Atmos Clock Repair & Reutter Atmos Clock Service Charges

Mike's Clock Clinic 1600 Maryland Avenue Myrtle Point, OR 97458-1508 Phone: 541-559-1090 or 877-286-6762 (Toll Free) E-mail address: Mike@atmos-man.com (Preferred method of contact) MCC's Web site is located at http://www.atmosman.com

Here's the basics:
My mechanical overhaul for the LeCoultre Atmos is $450.00 plus parts. This includes all labor, my 5-year parts and labor warranty, and return shipping within the U.S. Parts are an unknown until the clock is disassembled. All parts and all refinishing are extra.  50% of the time an Atmos will need parts. Virtually every detail is covered below, so please give this entire page a good read before you E-mail. The average cost of a mechanical overhaul on the LeCoultre Atmos is $650.00. One more thing and that is I have been working on the Atmos clock since 1990 and that was 8 years after I started my clock repair business. This experience is vital in order to due a first rate job on your Atmos and that is why I back my work with a 5-year warranty.

Details below:


For overhauling jobs outside North America, please see: Service charges for clocks outside North America
Atmos Clock Service Charges
Overhaul Pricing and Comparisons
I make my living overhauling the Atmos from all over North America, and in fact the world, and I'm an active Atmos overhaul Instructor. Because of the complexities of the Atmos clock, an Atmos needs a complete mechanical overhaul whenever serviced. An Atmos keeping good time does not need any periodic maintenance, so don't waste your money on what other's may have said. The current price of a mechanical overhaul for any LeCoultre made Atmos is $400.00, which includes all labor, plus shipping, handling, and insurance, which adds $50.00. This brings the base overhaul total to $450.00 which includes $2,000.00 of return shipping insurance. Added to that base charge is any needed parts. The above price includes a 5-year warranty. Shipping to Canada, Alaska and Hawaii doubles to $100.00. International shipping triples to $150.00 and complete information is located at: Service charges for clocks outside North America. One part of note because of its expense is the bellows also called the motor. It is the large round "bowl shaped" object on the back of the clock. The current cost to refill your original bellows (if needed) is $200.00. On average 80% of bellows can be refilled and that assures that your Atmos stays 100% original. If the bellows cannot be refilled then the choices are; use another refilled bellows that is close to the date of your original bellows (usually within a year) for the an extra $50.00 for a total cost of $250.00 or replace with a new bellows which costs $600.00. My overhaul service takes about 11 to 14 weeks and includes a 5-year warranty on all labor and any part you paid for and installed by myself. Add about a month if the bellows needs to be refilled or if your case or dial is to be refinished. The price exceptions are the 50th and 150th anniversary special editions or any other special edition Atmos' are $650.00 for the base labor overhaul. The Reutter Atmos is the only other exception, the base labor overhaul is $750.00. I have over 20 years of experience on the LeCoultre and Reutter Atmos and I have the longest warranty anywhere at 5 years. Return to Index
Parts (If they are needed)
I use genuine LeCoultre parts and proven after-market parts where the cost saving are justified. Also, many overhauls require a new suspension spring, which currently cost $150.00 installed. It has been my experience that if the serial # of the Atmos is under 150,000 then, sometimes, the suspension spring WILL need replacing, if it is still the original part. Because of the high cost of the new bellows, currently $600.00, I do not replace it unless it has lost 9 mm or gas or more. That would make my depth measurements 32mm or greater. In most cases, I can have your original bellows refilled at a cost to you of $200.00 and that represents a $400.00 savings over new replacement bellows. Refilling the bellows is my personal preference because it keeps the clock 100% original and your original bellows contains the date of manufacture, which is used to date your Atmos. If the clock stops within the 5 year warranty period and we find that it is the bellows, then I do NOT charge for my labor to install a refilled or new bellows but you would be responsible for the cost of the bellows and the return shipping charge of $50.00. I like to take the wait and see approach. I have seen bellows ""flat" after only ten years and I've seen "perfect" bellows that were 65 years old. If you have a caliber 540 or higher, which translates into a serial # of 600,000 or higher, then there is about a 90% possibility that your Atmos will NOT need any parts including bellows refilling.

If you need a specific part then please see my Atmos parts page.


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J. L. Reutter & Mercury Bellows
The very first commercial production run of the Atmos (now called the Atmos 1) was made by Compagnie generale de radio (CGR). Together with Jean-Leon Reutter, production started in June 1929. Two French patents were granted for the Atmos 0 (624.595) and for the Atmos I (664.689) but that company never produced the Atmos 0. They are very nicely made and typically they have a plate saying "Reutter Brevet" or "Brevets J. L. Reutter S. G. D. G." (Brevet = Patent). Production stopped on July 27, 1935 when the company transferred all inventory and work in progress to LeCoultre. I will overhaul these clocks for $750.00, which is a base mechanical overhaul including all labor. Add to that shipping plus any needed parts. Reutter's will carry my 5-year warranty. Please be aware that original parts are nonexistent but internally the LeCoultre parts will work as original parts. This means that I have no access to any external or case parts but can provide any needed internal and movement parts. These clocks were wound with two mercury filled glass vials. I have no way to replace the glass vials or the mercury, which make up the Reutter's bellows. But manual winding is a snap and to access just open the back door and then push the protruding small knob on the bellows up and then allow it to come down on its own. Once the bellows no longer comes down on its own, the clock is fully wound and should last for about a year. Please see Atmos History for more information about the history of the Atmos clock. Return to Index
My 5-year Warranty
The reason I give a 5-year warranty is because I feel that no one can touch my service or expertise in the repair of the Atmos clock. All Atmos clocks will run anywhere from 14 months to 20 months on a full wind of the mainspring, which all "repair persons" do for any level of service. Typically the older an Atmos is the longer it will run on a full wind of the mainspring. Realize that the bellows job is to wind the mainspring, so if there are any bellows or winding troubles, they will not surface for over a year and that may be after "their" warranty expires. If an Atmos comes back within the 5-year warranty for any reason and I find that I take it from its packing box and then to the test bench and it runs continuously, there is a $100.00 charge plus return shipping of $50.00. Most times if an Atmos I have worked on stops, it will run provided that the customer follows my stating procedure that is contained in my operations manual. Proper Starting section of my operations manual. The same $150.00 would apply if anyone caused the breakage of a part. Added to that would be the cost of the part. I would still eat the labor because there would be no need to "re-overhaul" the clock assuming that I worked on that particular Atmos and it was still within the warranty period. If the returned Atmos is still under my 5-year warranty and stops within a few weeks from packing box to test bench then there is no charge what-so-ever and will be returned running properly in about 6 to 8 weeks because of the need to retest your Atmos for at least 3 weeks. Return to Index
Shipping and Turnaround
I advise shipping the Atmos with the original carton if available. Please make sure that the clock does not rattle in its first shipping box. Take up any space with packing peanuts or newspaper in order to eliminate any looseness. In any case, please be sure to double box the clock and insure it for at least $2,000. By double box I mean to pack the 1st and 2nd boxes as if you were going to ship each independent from the other one. Also, to reduce your shipping costs ship via UPS, be sure that the 2nd box measures 16" x 16" x 16" or less. Please pack each box WELL. When I ship the Atmos back, I use a 12" x 12" x 12" box for the clock and then the 16" x 16" x 16" for the second. The reason I chose a 16" cubed box is that larger boxes, as a 18" cubed box, pushes the girth to an oversized box in most carriers eyes and then your shipping costs double. For return shipping I use UPS for all shipping. If you want to use another carrier then you will have to arrange everything for shipping, meaning I hand the box to the driver, get a receipt and nothing else. I understand some trepidation about shipping an Atmos and I can assure you that if the clock is packed well, and the pendulum (balance) is locked, then there should not be a problem. With the balanced locked, any Atmos can withstand a great deal of shaking and movement just short of dropping it. I have shipped overhauled Atmos' all over the world and never have had to deal with shipping insurance because of any damage done during transit. I must have shipped over 3,000 Atmos' so just use common sense and pack each box well. If you cannot lock the balance (pendulum) then place something soft that will take up space, like a clean hand towel. Since the Atmos is coming here for a mechanical overhaul, then you don´t have to be too concerned about the lock because even unlocked, there is noting that I can't fix. The lock is important if the clock is working properly and you want to move it across the room or across the country. My turnaround is usually 11 to 14 weeks. Please be sure to LOCK the pendulum before doing ANYTHING! Old parts are returned by request only. Upon the receipt of the clock, I inspect it to make sure that it survived its trip to the Clinic and E-mail you that the clock has arrived. It usually takes about 2 to 4 weeks to perform the complete disassembly. Once I disassemble, I E-mail you to advice on what, if any, parts are needed and the amount quoted, at that time, becomes a firm price. After that initial contact, the parts are ordered and the overhaul work usually begins within 8 to 11 weeks, longer if the bellows needs refilling or if the case or dial need refinishing. The reason for the longer turn times is that I must send these out to another professional and I'm subject to their work volume. My volume of Atmos overhauls has been steadily increasing and turn times are estimates and may be longer than indicated above. With anywhere from 20 to 30 Atmos clocks in house waiting for their overhaul, I do offer a wait list service. Meaning that I place you on my wait list and it is as if the Atmos came in that day and you've just established your place on my "to do" list. Once the calendar comes within about 3 weeks of your Atmos being worked on, I E-mail and ask you to ship your Atmos at that time. This usually cuts the turn around time in half. Please only ask for wait list service if you are sure you will send the Atmos in for repair and not just to have a place in line while you continue to shop around for another who services the Atmos. I say this because it does take time to record, follow a protocol, and make contact when the waiting period is over. It's extremely frustrating to make contact and then to be ignored or to be told you have gone with another. Please do your research before you ask to be wait listed. Thank you. To have your Atmos overhaul wait listed please E-mail. Return to Index
Customer's Close Enough to Bring in the Atmos
All appointments must be scheduled at least a week in advance because of the havoc it plays on my schedule. Please do NOT expect an appointment on Sunday's or Monday's. The true benefit of bringing your Atmos in yourself is that I disassemble your Atmos while you watch. I announce the expected measurements before I take them and we discuss their meaning. The entire disassembly takes about 45 minutes, so schedule enough time if you can. Also you leave with a photocopy of the invoice and that copy becomes your "repair ticket" and the price on that ticket becomes a quote and a firm price with no chance that the amount will increase. You MUST realize that once I start the disassembly, I'm looking for any and all reasons why the cost of the overhaul will increase. I'm not saying the costs will increase but please realize that I'm NOT looking for anything that would be considered a "quick fix". The rare quick fix would have already been addressed in the first few minutes of my examination. One other minor benefit is that you save the $50.00 in shipping costs. Naturally this assumes that you pick up your Atmos when the overhaul is completed. Return to Index
Testing and the Unknown
Once testing starts it is performed in two parts. The first test is the function test to ascertain whether or not your Atmos will run properly. During this electronic test the clock is "timed" without the dial or hands being attached. This most always takes about 24 hours. Then the second test is the Atmos fully assembled and is the final test which takes any where from a few days to as many as 6 weeks. I ship when both the final payment and the testing period have been satisfied. Normally shipping takes place on the Monday that follows the completion of the testing period. Here's how long it takes each wheel in the Atmos to turn. 1 turn of the mainspring barrel occurs in 103.57 days 1 turn of the 2nd wheel occurs in 20.714 days 1 turn of the 3rd wheel occurs in 3.4524 days 1 turn of the 4th wheel occurs in 8.2854 hours 1 turn of the 5th wheel occurs in 1.0000 hour 1 turn of the 6th wheel occurs in 0.2500 hour Now a test for 104 days would be excessive but 3 or even 6 weeks is in the realm of possibilities. The best of all worlds would be for me to test for 6 weeks, which allows most wheels to turn at least 2 revolutions. I realize that some people do not have the patience for that and why I'm willing to send them off in a little as a week´s testing but prefer 3 weeks. What sometimes does happen is that the Atmos, after the overhaul, is now too efficient. Meaning that the balance will rotate too much. The excessive rotation causes the roller on the balance to pass though the fork and then have so much more rotational force that it then hits the fork on its side, some 340° away. This hitting the fork after it has passed through causes the Atmos to run too fast and in fact you will not be able to regulate it. I bring this up because it takes at least a week and many times 2 weeks for the balance to arrive at full rotational strength. NOTE: Just for your information, a balance rotation of under 360° in total, from stop to stop, will have a similar affect. Here the Atmos can run either fast or slow, there is just no telling. The reason for this is that the balance is now underpowered but can keep running for months and months. So for those that have the patience to wait for a three or six week test, I'll be more than happy to do so BUT I would need to be paid in the same time frame as if I would be shipping it with only a week of testing. But even with the extra testing, you will still have to adjust the timing of your Atmos because each environment will have a different average temperature and the hours it stays at any set temperatures would also be different. The Atmos is affected by the temperature of the environment it is located in. The "fun" will be that once you have it adjusted, the outside temperature will be changing enough so that the inside temperature will change as far as how long it stays at one temperature or another and then you'll have to adjust the Atmos again. If an Atmos is within 30 seconds per month then it is an accurate Atmos. So I can test it until the cows come home and you will still have to address the fact that the Atmos will run at a different rate at your location. When I ship back the clock, the package will contain your original invoice and an instruction manual that I authored. Return to Index
Payment and Estimates
I would like payment by money order, certified check, personal check, or through Pay Pal, which is the only way I take credit cards. I do prefer a check over Pay Pal because Pay Pal takes 3%. If you want to use a credit card, then please use the link below, which will direct you to Pay Pal. If you like, I can send a Pay Pal invoice. The Pay Pal invoice will be 3% higher in order to cover their "take". If you use the link below in order to pay then you must add 3% to the total because I'm tired of losing 3% to credit card companies. I discourage prepayments, except for part charges that exceed $500.00. However, I usually collect 1/2 of the invoice total once the disassembly is completed if the parts total exceeds $500.00. You do NOT have to be a member of Pay Pal in order to issue a payment. Here's something right off Pay Pal's Web site: Get paid by anyone with a credit card they don't even need a Pay Pal account.
If you decide not to go ahead with the repair, then I return the clock via UPS and COD. The charge will be $100.00 labor, plus the COD charge ($10.00), plus my standard shipping and the insurance charges ($50.00). This total works out to be $160.00 for a clock returned to you and not repaired after my estimate. The labor change is for my time in disassembling and then reassembling. The COD is dropped if you are a previous customer of mine or if you pay the $150.00 before the clock is shipped. Return to Index
Refilled Bellows
Through various efforts in the trade, I now can offer to refill your original bellows (if needed). Bellows are filled with ethyl chloride, which is that same material used by LeCoultre. I offer this service for a cost of $200.00, which is a $400.00 savings versus a new bellows. If the bellows fail within the 5 year warranty period, you must pay for return shipping. I will replace your spent refilled bellows, which was initially refilled by me, with another refilled bellows that is within a year of your original bellows and only charge the $50.00 for return shipping, no labor cost will be charged. The above costs are only good as part of a complete overhaul. If you want the bellows refilled as a stand alone service, then the cost is $310.00. That includes return shipping (in the U.S.) and you will have to remove the spent bellows and sent it to me and reinstall the refilled bellows. If you do not have the old bellows, then I can supply a bellows usually manufactured within a year of your serial #. That adds $50.00 to the $310.00 mentioned above for $360.00. You can also order a "spent" bellows that will date within a year of your original bellows. For just an old bellows without refilling, the charge is $60.00 including shipping (in the U.S.). You must be aware that there is a 20% failure on refilling used bellows. Therefore, I cannot guarantee that your bellows refill will be successful. I can, however, have one of my old stock bellows refilled in case of failure and that adds $50.00 to the refilling charge. If the procedure fails, then I'll return your original bellows at no charge, assuming that you sent just the bellows for refilling or take a spend bellows from my inventory that is close to the date of your original bellows (usually within a year) and charge $50.00 extra for a total of $360.00. If you sent the entire clock as part of an overhaul, then I will install either a new bellows at an extra cost of $600.00 or use another refilled bellows that is close to the date of your original bellows (usually within a year) for the an extra $50.00 for a total cost of $250.00. I will NOT and do NOT sell "NEW" bellows to anyone and will only install new bellows as a part of a complete overhaul. Return to Index
Soldered Bellows
Many of the older Atmos' with a serial # below 50,000 have soldered bellows. This presents a whole new set of problems in order to replace worn out bellows because the bellows are actually soldered onto the bellows canister and plate. I have a procedure for removing a "dead" bellows from the old soldered bellows cover found on the older Atmos' and it's located at: Bellows2.pdf If you would like me to do the same procedure, which keeps the original bellows canister and hardware, except the "dead" bellows, I charge $1,200.00 which includes the new bellows. The actual original bellows is replaced with a new one. The $1,200.00 only covers the material and labor costs for changing the soldered bellows canister to one where any future changing of the bellows would be greatly simplified. The above costs are only good as part of a complete overhaul. All overhaul and other part costs will be added to the $1,200.00. If you want your soldered bellows replaced with a new bellows as a stand alone service, then the cost is $1,400.00. That includes return shipping (in the US) and you will have to remove the entire bellows (cover and motor included) and sent it to me and reinstall the completed bellows. At least 1/2 of the $1,400.00 ($700.00) must be pre paid and the service can take as long as 3 months because of slowness in the ordering process for the new bellows. Return to Index
Dial and Case Refinishing
Dial refinishing is $150.00 when it is part of an overhaul. This will make your old worn Atmos dial look like new. This is a nice companion to case refinishing. Dial refinishing adds about 4 weeks to the overall process because I sent it to another professional. Dial refinishing is offered as a stand alone service for an additional $50.00 ($200.00) plus shipping. Payment must accompany the dial. Shipping is $10.00 in the U.S. ($210.00). You would be responsible to remove and reinstall the dial. Expect the dial to be returned to you in about 6 weeks. Case work such as stripping, polishing, and lacquer sealing is an additional $450.00. This procedure makes the clock look new and extremely hard to tell that there is no gold plating. Polishing and lacquering includes all exposed case parts, all base parts, the bellows canister and the canister lid. Normally the pendulum and dial bezel do not need this but it's included if they have been tarnished. Please be aware that some pendulum bobs cannot be refinished because of their uniqueness. An example would be if your pendulum bob has black lines on it because the refinishing would remove these black lines and I have no way to accurately "reline" the bob. Case refinishing usually adds 6 weeks to the entire process. If 24 karat gold plating is desired then the total additional cost is $900.00. Gold plating is so expensive because it involves the initial polishing procedure to bring the parts down to brass. Then the parts are nickel plated which is followed by the 24 karat gold plating and finally the clear lacquer. Both the $450.00 for polishing and $900.00 for polishing and 24 karat gold plating are added to the cost of the overhaul and any needed parts. Case polishing and/or plating is NOT offered as a separate service and will only be done in conjunction with an overhaul. Individual parts may be obtained by going to the link Atmos parts. Return to Index
Trade Discounts
I do not give any trade or volume discounts. Return to Index
"Rush" Jobs
A job that requires the return of the completed Atmos clock in less than 2 months is available. The "catch" is that my labor charge doubles from $400.00 to $800.00, with everything else staying the same. Return to Index
Generic Operations Manual
A link to my Atmos Operations Manual Return to Index
Why an Atmos Would Run for a Short While Then Stop.
I'm asked why an Atmos would run for a few hours or a few days and then stop. Most assume it is the bellows, but there are many reasons as to the "why" and here's a few reasons. I'll try to list as many as I can think of: Most likely others that escape me at the moment. Return to Index
Who Does the Work?

It should be known that ALL work is done in house and by me personally.
The exceptions are bellows refilling, dial refinishing and case refinishing.

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What you need to do if you sent the Atmos to me for an overhaul
Assuming you sent the Atmos my way for an overhaul, then you must make sure that the clock is packaged properly and the balance is locked. Instructions on locking the balance can be found at: Locking the balance. If you cannot lock the balance then don't go to any extremes in order to do so because the balance locking device will be working properly when the Atmos is returned. Please see the link above about Shipping & Turnaround for proper packaging. Please make sure you have your name, address, phone number, and E-mail address somewhere in either box. The address must be the physical location you want me to return your overhauled Atmos. If you plan on going to a shipping store, then please write or print the information on a file card or something similar so that the person packing the Atmos can include that information along with the clock. A big help would be to include the tracking # in your E-mail to inform me that your Atmos is on its way. The reason is that I want to make sure that I'm here to receive your Atmos so it spends as few days in a truck or warehouse as possible. Return to Index
Why am I the ONLY qualified repair person on the West coast in the US?
A good question and I do not have a definitive answer. I know that there were at least two others when I started in 1990 and they have either passed on or retired. Around 2005, LeCoultre stopped opening parts accounts for the procurement of Atmos parts and "the rest" of us were grandfathered in. So if a competent repair person wanted to overhaul the Atmos since 2005, they would have no access to parts. The other factor is that all with Atmos accounts have signed a contract NOT to sell parts and only use these parts in conjunction with the Atmos that they are currently working on. Probably most important is the fact that ever since I was taught Atmos overhauling, my intent was to teach the same. I have taught many others and since they cannot get parts, most take my course for general knowledge and to keep their Atmos in good running order. It is surprisingly time consuming to think to yourself, "How would I convey this to another", each and every time you tear down or rebuilt something concerning an Atmos clock. But this is exactly what I do every time I overhaul an Atmos. I guess some habits are valuable.
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Accuracy of This Web Page
For whatever reason, I get asked if the above Web site is up to date and accurate. If and when anything about my business practices, prices, or policies changes, the first thing I do is update this Web page regardless of the "last updated" date that appears at the bottom. In other words, if you are viewing this Web page for the first time and/or have hit the "refresh" on your browser, you can be assured that all the information is accurate and completely up to date. I'm also asked if I'm taking in work and I can assure you that I'm taking in work and if that ever changes then this Web site will be deleted. Return to Index Respectfully, Michael P. Murray A service from, E-mail address: Mike@atmos-man.com Mike Murray Founder of Clocksmiths A specialist in Atmos and 400-day clock repair. Also, I overhaul most plug in electric clocks. In continuous service since 04/01/1982. Mike's Clock Clinic Membership: NAWCC 1600 Maryland Avenue Myrtle Point, OR 97458-1508 Phone: 541-559-1090, or 877-286-6762 My Web site is located at http://www.atmosman.com/ Main FTP site is located at http://home.earthlink.net/~atmosman/earthftp.html Memberships: Clocksmiths & NAWCC N.A.W.C.C. International 400-day Clock Chapter # 168 Formally published in Chapter 168's "Torsion Times" Formally published in AWCI's "Horological Times" Formally AWCI's 400-day (Anniversary) clock Bench Course Instructor!

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